begin to understand how people make decisions. whether they should have the 15% carry or not, i don't know. but the question is let's examine it in stead of doing it in a ray. maybe he said he was for the rich. > all the rich were in the 70's. >> we lowered capital gains in 1997 and we got to a balanced budget because we provided incentives. you know what they're doing with it? they're buying twitter. i'm not telling you that -- i think we ought to have a flatter tax with fewer provisions. get the taxes flatter and get the corporate taxing down. i also help be and

happen to believe in an unearned income tax credit. it's not just one way. we just passed the largest tax demut the united states in our last budget and we -- we haven't earned income tax money. and so with d of a carried interest, i mean, i haven't spend enough time thinking about i. it should be on the table. but at the end of the day lentlet's not doing in that gums up venture character. let this is a question about populism, conservatism and populism. and mirroring those two things together. a lot of people just think you get wall street, you know, the dow over 16,000. people losing seemingly every

week falling farther and farther behind. you are too big to fail, even be bigger than before. there are a lot of conservatives with a small c that would love a conserve tiff populist. also talking about breaking up the banks. why do we keep allowing bad behavior to go forward and reward mue han behavior? >> we don't think that's a good thing. doesn't matter if the monopoly's in government. that concentration of pow >> we that can steam troll people and is never a good thing. e've not been that party and we can do it or just bonn

economic issue where is we challenge the elite. that's the big size. there could be et cation jindal and jeb bush dime washington not long ago to stand up against the department of justice because they're choking education in l.a. , to open up al school systems so they can choose a better school. barack obama and michelle obama they chose the best school for their kids. why shounlt all americans have equal opportunity to choose the best school for their kids? that's a great republican idea that you can take into the inner city. at you can take into the

chamber of hispanics. you know, who should republicans favor? everybody. right. exactly. all right. thank you so guys so much. we sure appreciate it. and we thank you all for being here today. [applause] >> that was great. thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> later in the day former u.s. trade representatives will discuss the free trade

agreement between the united states and the european union, the trance atlantic trade & investment partnership. you can watch the debate live at 6:00 p.m. eastern. lso on c-span 3. >> c-span, we bring public affairs events from washington directly to you, putting you in the room at congressional hearings, white house events, a offering complete, all as private service or pry videotape industry where c pan was funded by your local or sat lied provider and now you can watch us in h.d. >> next, social media and journal lism with ben splith. he delivered the keynote address at the journal lism conference in early october. and he took questions from the audience.

this is about 30 minutes. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> the fact that the radio ople run the place -- when i -- when i -- when i started i became sort of a discover for the city hall, those two past presidents own some rich land where among the very generous people welcomed me from my new right-wing daily at the new york sun. it's an honor to be on stage like all the ones who were just

honored. oh, and that's the end of the slide show. give me one second here. all right. anyway, so the topic of this is how the social web is good for journalism. i hit the word content to give like news, entertainment, good enough words. i don't know how it got into my bio. i'm going to purge it. by the social web what i mean is the -- basically this sunt the future but the present just when people open their computers or their phones, the application they open isn't -- they don't go to your website -- they open twitter, facebook

and a challenge for news organizes is how do you get into that sfleem how do you make the kind of reporting, entertainment that people will want to share on facebook, nterest or whatever the next platforms are? and so, i guess i wanted to start a little with my history with sort of how i noticed that the social web had kind of replaced the old-fashioned blogs fear and started a couple of political blogs. and in 2008 when i was writing for political. i wrote 1 does political blogs. there was a lot of fun to write one of them. you had this very immediate sense that you were doing what

a lot of us got in the business to do, just writing directly. people would ask me -- get these e-mails like are you dead? and it had very different relationships with like hundreds and hundreds of readers who would e-mail me tips. you got tips in a really nice, immediate way. people felt they were in conversation with you and then forward you some document their boss told them not to share which is a really fun way to do reporting. after the -- at some point pretty soon after 2008, i could kind of feel that -- well, the blogs had their flaws. one of them is if you were fighting someone. there was no good way to end -- this is the other thing you dit. here's a throing the attack. i hope you link me before you attack me back. this was not the most efficient

thing in the world. it was a little weird. and twitter grew up in politics. it had a much more efficient. you tagged someone names and the tweet and you know you can respond in kind. an for that reason and others you can feel the centralized conversation which had one task between the boys on the bus and it happened on the phone and on e-mail between operatives and in the corners but that came to happen. sort of moved into public on twitter in a way that's more efficient and i made the mistake of mentioning this to a recorder and what was kind of meant to be was the puppy eyes. and how twitter was going to droy us. -- destroy us. but that was any sense really as a reporter most of ull. when i had to scoop, what i would do is tweet it and watch

and see if people are sharing i. there's new news, you want to tell your friends about it. and so both as a consumer getting my news from twitter and as a reporter, it was pretty clear that -- that this social web had become the place political re journalism and politics is the early adapter because politicians are kind of running media organizations. they're obsessed with media. media. e on the edge of so as twitter consumed political reporting, it starts to consume politics. it's not just that people are commenting on twitter. he's engaging in stuff. 20-call and it

was sort of happening. couldn't w -- and i not include a gift in this presentation. [laughter] so you see the -- both, you know, operatives for obama and romney attacking each other. this is almost stops the heart of my reporter, rosy grey. but she tweeted something. at this point they have joined this conversation. in fact, their communication are very good at it. so rosie tweets criticism. pickings up osky her blackberry and she starts yelling at rosie from the die ass.

but this is marks of the extent of where this social conversation ah become the political conversation which is, you know, i just think kind f a fast love it or hate it. news primarily travels on twitter. some of this is true on facebook but there are tons or other types of things. you see people share on twitter are basically the type of hings most of us got into this business. i think if you don't see people and so a will the o what we've been investing in and you know, what we find is successful is, you know, is

huck erring great reporters to nd out the stories and put them. it's true. it's great for beat reporters. these are vertical eyes. conversations among experts and player in these different fields. there's a built-in conversation where -- where you have smart people. where you have players in the stories. calling you out if you're wrong. this is fun stuff and really atisfying stuff. which is why most people would want to become reporter. some of these things -- or most of them, the areas that news organizations came up covering

and they're also categories that really kind of arooted in start and what people doing as other news are doing. -- social conversation around the latest on syria. you've got is, you know, your take on an a.p. story. alive. you got is still manage that, you know, it's faster and better than anybody else. that's what people are going to share. the other thing that lived on the social web that has become a very chagging.

i think anybody who has worked in a newsroom knows it's a total disas ter. that you'reer sending reporters to the wrong guys house. that you're -- that you got all sorts of theories, but that you . uld like anything now in bub anchors were often saying, stop. which tern turned out to be wrong. and of course comes from the st sources and law enforcement sources are in the long hours are often con footed. getting bad information. an f.b.i. source tends to be wrong. . ey're always -- also her day was telling me the story.

he was crouched down in a store front downtown. heard a bang. just saw aid god, i another sploish. thace one was connected. it's for the lee. >> and what has now changed is that that messes in comment. ever interesting but inconclusive fact. now out there on twitter and you're readying are swim being in the sea of this stuff. there's sort of this choice do you try in the traditional way to keep your hands clean and not engage thing if you realry if your r true

readers are already swimming in hese wears, -- they learn that there's been an explosion or whatever -- or that miley si russ suzz done something craze from title. and so, you know, and we people coming from twitter who was trying to nderstand what is gloing on. it's a responsible way to oovegation this information. because they've heard all the false stories. there's no way to protect them from us the really challenges thing is here is something people are saying, here's why they're sighing i. here's why we know avenlt here's a reason to belief it's false. dels a tricky thidge to

navigate but a very kind of interesting and challenging one. . the "new york times" reporter was irritated how helpful we were. our philosophy is you have to ind a way to lead in chaotic situations. and then basically the way i have been talking about is the core social winner. the big s and in the place that is the source of his overtaken google. certainly are as facebook. it's a step with real emotional power that sends to spread on facebook. which is to say, powerful faux

- stories. these are a couple of examples. and i think that our view a lot of the things that reporters have always wanted to do, you know, are included in the kind of things that do really web. i'm portal and i have a click often or in serge engines which are great for porn and diet pills. but social places is where you're sharing stuff that you're reading. this is like a particular sort of interesting fement for him. it was on fox news and it was last year where a guy within a

car chase, and shot himself. and also a lot of discussion kind of what's appropriate to air and to show. we'll probably show you the whole video. took a ent the reporter will the shift for it and felt ambivalent. so we dent her out to phoenix, to do a really long reported story like what had happened with this guy. it was just interesting to see. that's the story that got more oners. i don't know. there's sort of a lot of space for both. a lot of space for different kind of bisses.

on the sort of new social web. i think that's all i've got but it suggested i take some questions. and i would. -- and i would love to. >> people should come to the mic. >> you should come the mic. >> hi steve. >> i wonder if the definition of journalism has changed or ing what was that neration and and today's journalism? er think it took a detour away from. agra gation has been a big part

of journalism. but not maybe the most satisfying thing. and i do think $this obsession enjoining that to if it over to that was was optimized right and that that -- that's still true for search engines but they are less important. that doesn't work at all. nobody's going to share something they were tricked into reading. >> basically this new system favors things that are a lot more old school. > you've been able to lure journalists from i'm wondering how you could but you model. >> i think a lot of my reporter see the business as is kinding

leaping from melting ice snow, to melton ice flow. i for a lot of reporters in their 20's, it's hard to see the kind of career path that a big organization. or not as secure. i sni people are interested in taking risks. nd also i think quickly, all those friends read buses some how we pay them. no, i mean, we sell out. this isn't my side of the house. we have a traditional fire wall . add.our theories about a theirsterable and annoying and you have to block the x to make it go away. readers hate that. and brand's doing be into the

.usiness of janling into your and we are on a different motto which our adds are the form of our contact. they're fun less. and to me like the tradition sh where as erable if you would cut the pictures .f "vogue" people as engage. see them we hope that's a resource we hope to contact into it. was that your own staff? do you think there's enough differentiation? you can tell the different

between an article involved and an? >> we're changing it all the time. if you look at the front pain there's a yellow underlay. i don't know. i think part of is that people recognize that because they're so used to google but there are these convictions. there's a glad line around it. i don't know. we try tods make it really clear. people probably. i think the brands want stouf be very clearly branded for ure. >> hi, how are you? what do you think is is the next big thing after facebook, twitter. what do you think they're not doing that you think should be developed? >> that's like your billion dollar idea. [laughter] >> yeah, i mean, certainly

there are other social apps , 12 are very, very popular to 18. and a lot of them which is that there's no taking you back to the hyperlink, you know, that snapshot is incredibly popular? >> i just was curious to know being that facebook and now twitter going, you know, publically, you know, traded, do you think they'll sustain that! >> i think people will buy the shares. there's obviously a ton of pressure. but i think you'd start seeing more ads. in your twitter feed -- i mean, sometimes there are these new innovations that come and go

and sthare fans. they become the basic pipe ones for content. and, you know, it feels like facebook and twitter and do all ort of platforms will survive. who knows. better be my space for a minute. so -- >> hi, ben. you wrote back in april after there was a bit of a mess-up following the us a tip bock ings. you wrote about how traditional media has new in reporting breaking news, i have it on my phone. there's a chef having a responsibility of just -- of vetting and sharing new the ation to have one of

guys. -- that the was woman who rashed her car into the white house is mentally ill. it is so likely that any given arena would have heard that or sheen it. that it makes sents for you to say here is a claim, people are work. there's not much evidence for as op easied to because you tillly. it makes sense to engage -- thing that you are not and, there's this weird mirror or allegation abroad in the land that he is secretly muslin. if he'll talk about it, he'll

el vay us. just kind of the reporting of it. and then at some point they eeg liesed for mur and verybody has theard they had that's just a change in the way information travels. i'm curious about how large organizations will tweet right away. and they have to that is this like a new job? >> i think -- i do think their reflexes are around standards. you just don't smutch something. . that makes a sun of ten when you could asthume none of your viewers heard it. and now when you should asthume most of -- or a lot of your

years probably i don't think there's a silver bullet or anything. >> oh, hi. i'm so sorry. >> how long were you standing there? >> just a couple of minutes. my question is regarding traffic and i know that a lot of websites using the social weapon, they've had tolls but i'm not what people really reading. my first question to you is that do you think that people, what people are writing online and what people want to -- do , is that something that we should be writing and your experience, are their actual sections or different

stories. people just weren't reading it. 've never really seen a ton of points and he if there's like a section to kill but certainly the world traffic like content it's like a little and if you can't attract readers to the thing you're going. you will there are people interest he's in virginia with j.k. he's going to be learge audience for some things. but you know, a good story will always out of gas and you have the traffic. maybe it's the -- story about,

you know, something about relatively narrow like an .dvanced or regarding you better like aim to hit them all that story and do. everybody who reals it it. that's kind of my approach. >> my dapni. -- and i've done photos for cbs radio. i'm curious about your plan for covering the upcoming congressional election and onthat the presidential election. >> i think we know we want to break a lot of entertaining news and stories. there's a lot of political scoop that now is just a tweet. it was something that was never that interesting and could be contained in 142 characters if somebody's press secretary

quit. sometimes there's no more to say than that. sometimes just publishing something on twitter will absorb the small incremental stuff which is great because it's kind of a waste of time. you feel like you were stretching to fill out 400 words. but i don't know. i think basically we want to break news and do really like, you know, deep reporting and and those are the things that -- and we what to do fun sbrertaining stuff. politics has been about power but also gossip and personalities if you ever talk about these politicians that's what they want to talk about. . it's all woven up together we aim to do all of that and yeah, that's all i've got. thank you, guys so much for having me. thank you a.j. for putting this whole thing together. [captioning performed by national captioning institute]

[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] "q&a," surgeon dr. hassan tetteh discusses his medical career, his service in afghanistan and his new book i'm a "gifts of the heart." tetteh, you told me just before we sat down that you did a heart transplant overnight. explain that. >> while the transplant is a big team effort. i was not the one responsible, but i was part of the team.